A rising Democratic Party star on Signalgate, corruption, and how the opposition can regroup.
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March 28, 2025, 1:05 PM
Signalgate, the story about how Washington’s top security officials mistakenly added a journalist to their text chain about an imminent attack on a rebel group in Yemen, is actually not about the messaging app Signal. According to Sen. Chris Murphy, a Democrat from Connecticut, it’s about gaslighting—the fact that the White House “maintains they did nothing wrong.”
I spoke with Murphy on the latest episode of FP Live, in which we discussed the bombshell news of the week, and also the topic we had originally agreed to chat about: FP’s new print issue, “Billionaire Rule.” On that topic, Murphy said “the Trump administration’s intent is to turn us into a hybrid oligarchy-kleptocracy.” Subscribers can watch the full discussion on the video box atop this page, or download the FP Live podcast. What follows here is a lightly edited transcript.